Am ha·’a'ret

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  Did you enjoy being a JW meetings,field service ect??

  by karter in

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  Am ha·’a'ret

  I quite liked giving talks. I also liked the group study esp when we were studying "the meaty stuff" - Daniel, revelation, Isaiah etc. Until I found out about the UN stuff. Then all those cool pix in the climax book kinda lose their meaning. . .

  I did enjoy answering esp in my old cong which was way more liberal than the current one. I remember as a child asking questions in the group usually completely unrelated to the study. I remember the look of horror mixed with complete surpirse when I (aged about 8) put my hand up during the study and asked in my most serious voice if Adam and Eve had belly buttons! Maybe that was the beginning of the end!

  I never ever like the ministry although I did aux pio a few times. I found it so difficult and completely unnatural and really struggled with it. I talked myself in to believing that the reason it felt this way is because we weren't created to preach and wouldn't have had to if Eve hadn't messed it all up. Isn't it amazing the mental gymnastics we do to talk ourselves around things?! And I totally agree with the poster who talked about the "do more" mantra. Leads to feelings of low self worth coz nothing we do/did was ever good enough. Not very "refreshing" to feel like that.

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  Hi all

  by SailAway in

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  i have decided to join this forum after quite a long time lurking here (a number of years actually).. i have been out of the truth for a while and recently started to attend some meetings.

  but i now think a bit more freely and wonder whether i am doing the right thing.

  a cousin of mine regularly posts on here, didgeridoo in fact i have seen him today, speaking to him has made me decide to finally post on here, although i have my reservations whether i am doing the right thing.

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  Hi Sailaway,

  I think you have to ask yourself one question - How much is too much? In other words what, if anything, can the WTS do that would make you say, "No, that can't be right. I'm leaving!" Jehovah wants us to worship him in spirit and truth and he also says that those in a false religion will pay for that religion's sins. So the "Get out of her!" command applies to all of us who claim to worship him. Each of us has to draw a line in the sand as surely no one can answer the question by saying that nothing the WTS could do would make them leave it.

  I have to say (and hope I don't offend) but up til recently I believed (or should I say was led to believe) that the child molestation issue was just anti-witness hype. And that the pro-blood use people were just trying to push their way on those of us led to believe this was disgusting to Jehovah. However, having done some research it turns out I was wrong on both issues. The WTS has twisted lots of things (including the Bible itself!) in order to back up their interpretations.

  I confronted an elder about the UN stuff. And he (evenutally!) admitted that it was indeed a mistake on their part to do what they did. Ok, anyone can make a mistake but a) Why did they not come clean, hold their hands up and publish the truth of the matter? and b) why are they now somewhat connected to the European equivalent, the OSCE? Does this show a repentant attitude? I think not!

  Anyhow...enough from me. I know it can be hard and going back is entirely your choice. Just do it with your eyes open.

  
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  Does the JW mindset ever leave totaley leave you ?????

  by karter in

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  i was 38 years in left 7 years i find myself still in the mindset sometimes maybe becouse wife and some family are still in but can you ever fully ''check out and leave"

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  My hubby started to fade almost a year before I did. Initially it was tough because I had married "in the lord" and felt let down by no longer having that in common. But we managed a sort of mutual respect until I saw the truth about the truth as its called ;) Now we are helping each other getting thru this difficult process of turning things around. Only last night we were talking about just how many of our life-changing decisions were made as they were because we were JWs. But no point in feeling bitter or dwelling on regrets. At least now we know better and can do better in future!

  
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  Elder calling around

  by Am ha·’a'ret in

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  i'm a new member as i've not completely left the org yet and being a "good lil jw" would never have looked at a site like this previously!

  there is one elder in the cong who calls around every so often to "chat" as i only stopped attending meeting a couple of months ago.

  i've spoken to him about certain subjects - eg the un thing and the misuse of quotes - but he has no useful answers for me.

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  In the beginning of my fade (about 6 months ago), there used to be 2 elders that would call to see me but now there's only one. The other guy said he felt that he had nothing to contribute to the situation. Not being boastful but I think this is because he could actually see what I was saying and didn't have a clue how to give a PC answer without conceding to me.

  I told the remaining elder that for his sake and mine he should not come over and visit alone. So either his Mrs or my hubby have been in the house each time he's called over. Seems as tho no other elder in the cong is so bothered about me as to accompany him. That or this bro is working solo. Tut-tut.

  I sent him a message about 12 hours ago and so far no reply which is a little unusual. Will keep you all posted and thanks to all for helping a newbie out on a rocky and unfamiliar road.

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  Elder calling around

  by Am ha·’a'ret in

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  i'm a new member as i've not completely left the org yet and being a "good lil jw" would never have looked at a site like this previously!

  there is one elder in the cong who calls around every so often to "chat" as i only stopped attending meeting a couple of months ago.

  i've spoken to him about certain subjects - eg the un thing and the misuse of quotes - but he has no useful answers for me.

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  We wrote the Society and got a dismissive response.

  Yeah, letter writing seems to get ya no where. (Been there - done that - got the evasive reply!) So my hubby actually rang "The Bethel" and, after much shuffling, got thru to the writing dept. He asked about the UN stuff and recorded the answer. A few months later, on hubby's way out, an elder and the CO called round so he played the recording for them! But, even after that, CO kept saying that they never admitted they were a member of the UN. Of course they weren't - they're not a country!!!! But they were associate members and therefore part of it. Yesterday, when rummaging thru my meeting bag, we found the "False Religion" kingdom news tract and had a bit of a laugh about the hypocrisy of it all. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

  
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  Elder calling around

  by Am ha·’a'ret in

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  i'm a new member as i've not completely left the org yet and being a "good lil jw" would never have looked at a site like this previously!

  there is one elder in the cong who calls around every so often to "chat" as i only stopped attending meeting a couple of months ago.

  i've spoken to him about certain subjects - eg the un thing and the misuse of quotes - but he has no useful answers for me.

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  Thanks for the welcome everyone. Means a lot when so few of the JWs I thought were friends actually turned out to be so :(
  I try to be so careful about what I say but it takes a LOT of concentration to constantly choose my words and not say anything incriminating. This elder in particular has done some less than moral things in the past (known by other elders) to make life difficult for certain people so I'll have to be extra careful.

  I've been reading things on here for the last couple of weeks, and I guess I do have answers to some of my questions already. Its certainly comforting to be have contact with others who've been there and know where I'm coming from.

  The name is to do with how the normal, humble joes are viewed and treated by the Pharisees emm, I mean elders. There's a real "you're not good enough/do more" attitude and it can feel quite crushing. I wanted the picture of the big foot in the rev climax book but couldn't find it (and my scanner's broken) so I went for Monty Phyton instead! Am
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  Elder calling around

  by Am ha·’a'ret in

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  i'm a new member as i've not completely left the org yet and being a "good lil jw" would never have looked at a site like this previously!

  there is one elder in the cong who calls around every so often to "chat" as i only stopped attending meeting a couple of months ago.

  i've spoken to him about certain subjects - eg the un thing and the misuse of quotes - but he has no useful answers for me.

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  Am ha·’a'ret

  Hi all, I'm a new member as I've not completely left the org yet and being a "good lil JW" would never have looked at a site like this previously! There is one elder in the cong who calls around every so often to "chat" as I only stopped attending meeting a couple of months ago. I've spoken to him about certain subjects - eg the UN thing and the misuse of quotes - but he has no useful answers for me. He's offered to call over again and I'm not sure what to do about it. Some of my extended family as still witnesses and there's a part of me that would accept his offer so my family think that I'm giving things a fair shot. But after reading some stuff on here, part of me is terrified of having him round in case he's looking for ammo! Any thoughts?